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$330 for He-man and Clawful…
uh, no thanks.
these are cool but not worth nearly that.
Tariffs seems to be $14 and $15 for He-Man and Clawful respectively. Shipping for the timed He-Man was $14 so for He-Man alone he's just over $150...
@onlyoneskeletor And to be honest, I am almost sure that the prices will go up with time…
I’ve heard that making smaller figures is not that much cheaper than making big ones, (at least at retail.) So the calculation of say, “it’s half the size, it should be half the price,” it doesn’t really work.
I don’t want to complain too much, I knew they would be out of my reach. It’s just interesting to watch, and hear what others think.
There are some “kidults” that have the necessary $$$. Mondo 1:6 seems to be going well. But I wonder if the bubble will burst at some point… Maybe when Gen Xers will be close to retirement and want to prepare for that step 😅
@banthafett I almost wonder if there is reason to the madness, if there are studies that show people at some point just dive head first into buying, and don’t care what the sum is 😅
It seems so stupid to do it all at the same time that, I almost wonder if they know more than we do… I gather the ones who don’t buy them, would not have done so if it was more stretched out either.
Tariffs seems to be $14 and $15 for He-Man and Clawful respectively. Shipping for the timed He-Man was $14 so for He-Man alone he's just over $150...
Damn. Mondo should include the tariffs in the price so customers don't feel blindsided when checking out.
And just like i mentioned before when you guys were wondering when these go on sale. The same day that mattel is selling a more expensive item from the same franchise. These companies just cant help themselves getting in the way of each other. Its total bullshit. Mattel could put foot down and say., we do ours today, you start yours next week. (Yes i know mondo will have it up longer) but the issue is that it is multiple purchases at time frame, and it also takes away from the excitement (if this stuff even excites anymore) from one item to the next. This is how shit gets ran into the ground, then they wonder why they dont sell as many as they thought they would.
Dude I was thinking the same thing. The license should have a rule. All order dates need to be checked for conflicts and approved by Mattel.
More one hundred dollar 6" figures from Mondo?
No, thank you.
Just stop and think about that for a second... there is absolutely no way Mondo, or any other company, can legitimately justify these prices. I certainly don't want to offend anybody here or elsewhere, but if you purchase these figures, you are doing so knowing full well that Mondo is taking you to the cleaners.
They have devolved into a terrible company that has made a business out of preying on fans' nostalgic attachments.
After the Funko acquisition, Mondo went crazy with their pricing structures. Unfortunately, they continue to lure people in like moths to a flame.... (and, I am guilty of falling for it as well... but the buck stops here with 1:12 figures... it simply has to.)
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@ornclown I recognize the fairness of your recap, which kind of terrifies me. To be transparent, if I could rewrite the story, the 200X toy line recently announced by Mattel for its Origins brand would be a subline of Masterverse. Then, I'd be safe from any temptation to buy Mondo products. Anything is still possible from that perspective, but they have to act fast before I commit too many sins (lol). Would I ever? What 200X, and most notably its cartoon, symbolizes to me is really powerful. It's the return of He-Man in my life. It reignited a flame that I thought was definitely lost. Not to mention its concrete impact at the time—not so much on the toy industry, but rather on our community. It was experienced as a long-lasting celebration until that day. This type of sentimental introspection is the string they're skillfully skimming, knowing the price exceeds my budget for a single product. On the other hand, the design and finish of these figures are irresistible. I find this situation scandalous, to say the least.
It’s a bit like with the Ghostbusters: while the expectation would be that 1:12 should have a significantly lower price point than their 1:6 offerings, they put a second figure in there, to justify that the final price was just like the 1:6 figures.
Obviously a 1:12 won’t be exactly half of a 1:6 figure, but it should be significantly less.
And now with MOTU 200X, again they put a bunch of extra things like a base in there, so they feel it’s worth almost as much as the 1:6.
Ofc there are quite a lot of us who’d love a simpler version. But $95 (plus shipping, tariff, etc) isn’t exactly a bargain.
I get that these are high end, but I dunno, it just feels excessive. Towards $200 for a 7 in figure… I wonder how well this will sell.
It’s a bit like with the Ghostbusters: while the expectation would be that 1:12 should have a significantly lower price point than their 1:6 offerings, they put a second figure in there, to justify that the final price was just like the 1:6 figures.
Obviously a 1:12 won’t be exactly half of a 1:6 figure, but it should be significantly less.
And now with MOTU 200X, again they put a bunch of extra things like a base in there, so they feel it’s worth almost as much as the 1:6.
Ofc there are quite a lot of us who’d love a simpler version. But $95 (plus shipping, tariff, etc) isn’t exactly a bargain.
I get that these are high end, but I dunno, it just feels excessive. Towards $200 for a 7 in figure… I wonder how well this will sell.
I don't want to sound vindictive or insensitive, but I hope these sell very poorly.
The only way these companies will listen to the actual fanbase is if we speak with our wallets.
If these do sell in decent numbers, then a dangerous precedent will be set. MOTU fans can be some of the most loyal in the world, and if they decide that these prices are just fine, then that will be the standard moving forward for companies like Mondo.
The normalization of $100 6" action figures is something that should never, EVER happen.
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@admin Nice! But it's not as attractive to me as Masterverse's. There are whispers that a second wave, consisting of Duncan and Skeletor, might occur in November. So I had a little fun and estimated the longevity of this brand in the best-case scenario. Judging by the number of characters introduced during the show (about 60), it would take 15 years to collect them all. And quite frankly, with the superior scaled line being priced out of the range of affordability, that annual ratio for the 200X line shouldn't be exceeded.
@onlyoneskeletor Indeed! In comparison, there is definitely more artistic design that goes into the Masterverse figure packaging, especially when one looks at the back.
While 15 years doesn't seem plausible (unfortunately), it will be interesting to see how deep this line goes. 🙂
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@admin Ouch! Resolutely too sober for my taste. Which is good news, I'd have even less hesitation to throw away the box (the other big problem for long-lasting collectors!Lol). As for this brand's longevity, only two characters come to mind as an absolute priority: the avatar I'm using on the forum and Teela Na, who was pushed out by a certain Veena back in 2015 (Motuc era).
@onlyoneskeletor Indeed! In comparison, there is definitely more artistic design that goes into the Masterverse figure packaging, especially when one looks at the back.
While 15 years doesn't seem plausible (unfortunately), it will be interesting to see how deep this line goes. 🙂
It's not even a finished sketch. Did they run out of time or run out of money?
@kraken the back of the Mondo boxes are usually lighter in art. Its the same for the 1/6th figures
I've emailed Mond o to inquire about my Buzz-Off and I have some thoughts about the recent chats and some news from the Toy Talk
Pricing
Obviously, pricing is a huge issue for everyone, but to this I ask you: are the prices really that crazy when compared to everything else? Labubu's are selling for $120 and are literally vinyl with furry suits on that are different colors. They have less detail than the average Funko Pop IMO and people are going nuts for them. Joy Toy has their Warhammer line that costs around $80 a figure. A fair amount of Mythic Legions figures are $60-80 (costs 4HM nothing to license since its their IP) as well. These Star War's movie realization figures are also 1/12 scale and cost about the same as a Mondo figure (Mei Sho Movie Realization Star Wars Action Figures, Statues, Collectibles, and More!). As a side note, this line it has been going on for several years now and seems to be winding down as BBTS used to have a few pages worth of figures, but now only has the one. We also have 1000toys that have tons of 1/12 scale figures that cost over $200 dollars as seen here with their Halo figures (Halo Action Figures, Statues, Toys, & Collectibles for Sale).
Over $100 for 1/12 scale figures isn't new at all. But it is new to MOTU. I'm not saying whether Mondo's pricing is right or wrong. That is for everyone to decide for themselves, but Mondo is far from the only company that's working in this scale and charging these prices.
As a side note I have the original Boba Fett from the above Mei Sho line and the Combat Evolved version of Master Chief from the 1000toy Halo line. There is a massive qualify difference between those figures and a Mattel figure.
200x Line
I watched the Toy Talk and wanted to add in a couple of snippets from it that I found interesting
- He-Man's chest is a softer plastic. Its more flexible instead of being rigid like Clawful or the 1/6th line. This allows you to roll his shoulders forward so he can grip his power sword with both hands. You see He-Man do it in the series multiple times so its really neat they were able to pull it off for the figure
- Team is excited to get to characters that never had figures made before
- The figures also look extremely posable. Hector had some production samples in hand and he was easily able to manipulate them. They certainly seemed less stiff than their larger counterparts
Overall, really excited to get these figures in hand!!!
@smokinya I also watched their podcast, but a bit later because the official airtime is very early in the morning in my country, so you can imagine the constraints. Anyway, I must confess that seeing the figures in motion doesn't help me renounce them (lol). It is... BREATHTAKING! As I said, I'm not a mint-on-card collector, so I don't have to worry about saving a lot of space. Speaking of new characters, I'm wondering if they could include a few from the MVC comics published during the time when Emiliano Santalucia collaborated with Val Staples and created a character named Illumina, a Gar character that never saw the light of day. Waspus, which was given the green light by Mattel during the period following Motuc as an official character (see the Motuc biography of Royal Defender Buzz-Off), might also be selected.
@smokinya You know, just today the same thing occurred to me, as I like to browse BBTS and all the crazy stuff they have on there.
I would just add to your closing argument, that we’re not in the realm of $100+, but more close to $200, including the shipping, tariff surcharge, and tax. But yeah, you have mentioned other lines selling 1:12 for 200. (Some of those obscure import robot figures etc are several hundreds 😳😳😳).(Let’s not even start re: statues).
So yeah, close to $200 for a figure that I think some collectors hoped could be a bit of a sequel to Classics, it is unprecedented for *MOTU*, but not unprecedented for figures in general.
People will have to see if it’s where they want to spend their money on.
Maybe it is the feeling of being excluded, I know that is the case for me a bit. But we’ll get over it 😏.
@onlyoneskeletor I could see them getting to some of those niche comic book characters if the line goes the distance. Scare Glow was only in the comics, but I have no doubt we’ll have a 200x Scare Glow within the next two years. He’s the Boba Fett of MOTU after all and Mondo loves him!!
Other than The Snake Men and The Evil Horde I’m desperate to see Webstor, Count Marzo, Stinkor and Evil Seed. Moss Man would be a heavy hitter as well as The Sorceress
@cosmic you’re absolutely right about the tariff charge and shipping. I’m notorious for never factoring those prices when talking about cost 😅. I don’t have to pay for tariffs, but I do need to pay the exchange rate which is almost worse. But we need to factor those charges into the other figures as well (at least the shipping charges for what BBTS has in stock). I do wish the figures were cheaper because I don’t want to exclude anyone, but I can understand why they aren’t.
the thing that bothers me when talking about price is making it seem like Mondo is gouging consumers, when the reality is they’re far from the only ones in the industry charging higher prices for figures. It’s happening in every industry right now (clothing, video games, etc.). Not saying it’s right or wrong, but for me the figures are worth it. They’re the only things I collect so all the budget is allocated there.
@smokinya I hear ya, I don’t know how costs are calculated these days, of course I understand that Mondo has smaller production runs, a very high amount of details, different engineering,… it’s a different calculation than retail lines.
I also get bothered by the populism in toy collecting, that those “up there” are screwing us all the time etc I know they often do but toy companies are by far not the most evil corporations on the world.
The costs ofc can differ depending where you are, tariffs, tax, customs, exchange rate,… and level of income (in other countries). I know our fellow collectors in Europe do suffer quite a lot, comparatively. (Are you in Canada?)
As a BBTS customer, I pay $4 flat shipping, and tax rate in my state 7%). So shipping is negligible when ordering, but tax can add up… and that tariff stuff is hard to anticipate.
Still a far cry from $50 ship and then *also* adding tax and tariff .
It is what it is, we’ll see how the figures turn out and how the response will be. I’m happy for those who can jump on these, a little bittersweet, but I’m still happy *so much* is happening in MOTU these days.
@smokinya I am most excited to see the vintage figures reimagined in this new line because it is easier to visualize the few references offered as Stactions back then. The first one I have in mind is Beast Man—he promises to be sensational! In the name of conformity, Mondo could operate in the same fashion as Mattel, recycling the mold. Boom! A flocked Moss Man would be amazing! I suspect they overproduced the regular edition of He-Man because it was still available five days later. If they did, that would be a clever move. They better maintain the "invitation" by dangling the carrot of a familiar face from the franchise in front of a few customers who could still be adventurous enough to jump on board, despite having missed a few characters in the meantime. To be perfectly transparent with you, now that the determinant factor is being known by everyone, my wish would be to focus over the main factions. Heroic/Evil Warriors, Snake Men, and Horde. That's it! I seriously doubt that these few names, to which we are both attached, could justify the current price point. Having said this, this is one of those examples where one couldn't be happier to be wrong.
@cosmic Yup I'm up in Canada. Makes everything so much more expensive. By the time the Tweeterhead statues are shipped, exchanged, and duty is paid they run me about a thousand dollars. I do have most of them though and they are super rad. Mondo figures are usually always pricey too. The 200x cost me $300 and some dolllars American. So by the time I pay the exchange it'll cost be over $400.
@onlyoneskeletor So something that I learned from the Toy Talk is that the 1/6th He-Man and Skeletor as well as the 200x He-Man and Skeletor are "evergreen" products. Its impossible for them to sell out. They are basically always making them and have them available since they're the two biggest characters. I do feel like Count Marzo and Evil Seed will be made though. I think that characters like Dekker and Chief Carnivus are the ones that won't ever get a figure. Evil Seed and Count were in a lot of episodes and I'm sure Marzo will come with a "little buddy" of him when he's depowered without the amulet. Either that or one of his hounds.
I was excited about this line. Figured I may limit it to just He-Man and Skeletor. Mondo made the decision easy for me by using that hideous silicone upper torso. So I'm out. I absolutely HATE the look of it. Hate. It.
@smokinya My plan is to gradually replace some of my MOTUC 200X characters with the (still hypothetical) Mondo ones anyway. However, that type of operation requires a lot of patience and strategy. I better not be too hasty in the reselling process because one mistake would cost me too much to consider rebuying the sacrificed references, not to mention their technical flaws, which can no longer satisfy the rightful expectations of an adult collector nowadays. Those were not-so-distant days, but still! LOL. Oh, you mean those big, atrocious creatures that look like big, mutated rats? How cool would that be? Of course, I'm not rejecting Marzo's pathetic appearance. There's definitely potential for some crazy offer. Now it's up to them.