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*YAWN* streamed this movie the other night - it was thoroughly mediocre.
*YAWN* streamed this movie the other night - it was thoroughly mediocre.
I honestly don't think that Marvel Studios will ever reach above the mediocre bar again.
Every choice they make has been at the behest of the modern audience and, therefore, turned out extremely safe and sub-par.
And that is just a small part of the bigger problems facing the studio.
The MCU has become so mucked up that writers are having a hard time making scripts that actually make sense. Just like in the comics, everyone knows everyone within the MCU thanks to End Game, so every threat has to be either world-ending or take place in an alternate time / reality / universe...
Back on the .org, I voiced my concerns multiple times about crossing all of the MCU franchises too early. The crossover events are what killed so many comics back in the 80s, and now it is happening in the movie world... even in movies like Thunderbolts... ugh.
I would have been genuinely excited for an MCU reboot of the X-Men.... buuuuuuuut, Marvel Studios has decided on bringing in the Fox mutants. The Fantastic Four are some of my all-time favorite books / superheroes, buuuuuuuut the casting and choices they went with are giving me cold feet now.
It speaks volumes when the highest grossing recent "MCU" film is an R rated, satirical superhero buddy flick that pokes fun at the convoluted mess the MCU has become.
>>>The Power of the Good and the Way of the Magic!<<<
*YAWN* streamed this movie the other night - it was thoroughly mediocre.
I honestly don't think that Marvel Studios will ever reach above the mediocre bar again.
Every choice they make has been at the behest of the modern audience and, therefore, turned out extremely safe and sub-par.
And that is just a small part of the bigger problems facing the studio.
The MCU has become so mucked up that writers are having a hard time making scripts that actually make sense. Just like in the comics, everyone knows everyone within the MCU thanks to End Game, so every threat has to be either world-ending or take place in an alternate time / reality / universe...
Back on the .org, I voiced my concerns multiple times about crossing all of the MCU franchises too early. The crossover events are what killed so many comics back in the 80s, and now it is happening in the movie world... even in movies like Thunderbolts... ugh.
I would have been genuinely excited for an MCU reboot of the X-Men.... buuuuuuuut, Marvel Studios has decided on bringing in the Fox mutants. The Fantastic Four are some of my all-time favorite books / superheroes, buuuuuuuut the casting and choices they went with are giving me cold feet now.
It speaks volumes when the highest grossing recent "MCU" film is an R rated, satirical superhero buddy flick that pokes fun at the convoluted mess the MCU has become.
100% agree, been saying it for years. Every mistake they built into the comics in the last four decades has appeared in the MCU in the current one!
And it's so deliberate - Feige knows damn well the bulk of the audience have rejected the agenda and so he's relying on nostalgia wherever he can pull it from. That's all he has left. Why on Earth would you try to put failed comics onscreen at insane cost?
@ornclown Friends of mine who are Marvel fans said Thunderbolts is actually a solid movie, but it bombed at the box office. I'm not sure what the MCU can really do to turn things around at this point. I suppose they're going all in with the next batch of Avengers movies, but so far they haven't managed to build up the next threat, who apparently will be Dr. Doom. When's he gonna show up to raise the stakes?? Who will the Avengers be? I don't think audiences want to see the B team version that they've been pushing for the last few years. Bring back the OG cast, especially Chris Evans. Bring back Scarlett. And the Hulk. Make sure Chris Hemsworth is front and centre as well. And obviously Benedict Cumberbatch - we haven't seen him for a while. I know they can't keep doing that forever since the actors will eventually age out of those roles, but right now they can still pull it off. Beyond this next phase however, I don't know where they can go storywise.
There will be a tremendous amount of pressure on F4 to perform massively, because it seems it's going to set up the events of the next several films...
@ornclown Friends of mine who are Marvel fans said Thunderbolts is actually a solid movie, but it bombed at the box office. I'm not sure what the MCU can really do to turn things around at this point. I suppose they're going all in with the next batch of Avengers movies, but so far they haven't managed to build up the next threat, who apparently will be Dr. Doom. When's he gonna show up to raise the stakes?? Who will the Avengers be? I don't think audiences want to see the B team version that they've been pushing for the last few years. Bring back the OG cast, especially Chris Evans. Bring back Scarlett. And the Hulk. Make sure Chris Hemsworth is front and centre as well. And obviously Benedict Cumberbatch - we haven't seen him for a while. I know they can't keep doing that forever since the actors will eventually age out of those roles, but right now they can still pull it off. Beyond this next phase however, I don't know where they can go storywise.
There will be a tremendous amount of pressure on F4 to perform massively, because it seems it's going to set up the events of the next several films...
Their big issue is few trust them now, to the extent they could put out solid movies for the next two years but it's already too late. I mean they're STILL gender and role-swapping for one thing while also nerfing Johnny Storm (as one example) for that mythical modern audience who hasn't showed up to any movie ever. And that's before you get to problems like Galactus being a threat who should appear AFTER Doom. Hell, he should probably be the Avengers threat.
@durendal Yeah... my biggest issue with the Doom scenario is that Downey Jr. is going to play him... how the HELL does that work?!?
Looking past the fact that I absolutely CANNOT stand that piece of trash actor, and the fact that he somehow was the orchestrater of the entire MCU, and the fact that he took the place of Uncle Ben for Spider-Man (oh, and gave Spidey his suit... lmao) - his ugly mug was already blasted all over the screen as Tony Stark! NOT Victor Von Doom!!
The Infamous Iron Man version of Doom may well be the version that the MCU gets... but that would be a flipping disaster (mostly because that book sucks.)
More likely, Tony Stark from the Fantastic Four's reality used his genius to become Doom instead of Iron Man and will now portray the evil dictator in the current timeline when he is somehow transported here... or something like that.
There are dozens of hypotheses about MCU Doom out there right now....
But, herein lies the problem... the MCU has become dependent on the multiverse MacGuffin to explain away the most ludicrous plot holes. Longtime fans aren't falling for it, and even casual moviegoers are feeling patronized because Marvel Studios apparently thinks everyone is stupid.
BTW, Thunderbolts is a solid movie but, it has an atrocious final act. Beside the terrible end, I mostly enjoyed it... but there was just something about it that felt 'manufactured' and didn't have that early MCU charm.
>>>The Power of the Good and the Way of the Magic!<<<
@sketchyskeletor Since this version of Galactus is confirmed to come from an alternate reality, our MCU could still be threatened by this (or another version of) Galactus.
In truth... I would love an entire offshoot of the MCU that focuses solely on the Cosmic Marvel books / themes...
They need to get away from the convoluted mess that they've created within the MCU proper anyway.
>>>The Power of the Good and the Way of the Magic!<<<
@sketchyskeletor Since this version of Galactus is confirmed to come from an alternate reality, our MCU could still be threatened by this (or another version of) Galactus.
In truth... I would love an entire offshoot of the MCU that focuses solely on the Cosmic Marvel books / themes...
They need to get away from the convoluted mess that they've created within the MCU proper anyway.
Tbh Marvel hasn't got the time, intelligence or balls for another Galactus. I think we'll be getting Galactose as is!